Tuesday, August 14, 2007

Will America fall like ROME or BABYLON or Both?

In all the studying I do I always come across things that show me I am on the right track when it comes to seeking answers and truth. Especially HIS truth because HE is the TRUTH (John 14:6). Trying to find America in Biblical Prophecy in Scripture is a theoretical one because there is so many opinions flying around when I come across good articles pertaining to the US in Prophecy. Some think America is the "Babylon" that the Book of Revelation describes in Rev 17 and 18. One could believe this because of the very descriptions John saw in his vision and many eschatologist agree with these interpretations. Of all the 9 or more Eschatological positions of end-time or new beginnings scenarios about Babylon, they do agree for the most part that Spiritually and Physically,
The Babylonian World System is going to fall and that is a guarantee when Jesus comes the Second Time Physically as He left. He is in control now and forever, and when He comes every eye and I mean EVERY EYE will actually see His glory. The Scary thing as well HE is coming as a LION to Judge everyone this time around. He will judge the quick and the dead and Yes Christian you and I too except ours will be according to what we had done on earth and what we didn't.

The king of Babylon (satan lucifer) will not stand a chance nor will anyone else who rejects HIM. Funny thing is who could ever stand a chance against his CREATOR. NONE! It baffles me now that in my BC days I thought I could in a sense. How deceived was I? Very. Praise God HE has mercy on me and saved me, because I deserve hell for that ideology I so egotistically lived amongst all my other Sin bondage's that were leading me on that WIDE road that leads to destruction only. What a wonderful Savior Jesus is. I'm Forgiven because HE was Forsaken for me in my place. Hence all who do not "deny self, pick up their cross and follow (put their whole life in) Jesus", stand condemned and forsaken already with Babylon " who was and is and is NOT". It is also baffling that People will choose Hell over God's gift of eternal life with their LOVING Creator and fall with Babylon. How could you ever love your SIN that much?

I thus far am seeing three Babylon's that will be ruled by one World dictator that are Economic, Religious/spiritual, Political. I do not just see one targeted location as everyone else does because there are to many contradictions it seems to just focus on one particular location. Of course they will have their locations or headquarters because the Bible says about the Beast that it will be his singular system that means the whole one world system and when he finally gets to OWN the whole world like the the Caesars of Rome etc. "who will make war with him"? How could we? One ruler who rules all three of these categories at the same time will defeat any system set up against it that God wills. Any national leader that could make war with that ruler will see his own demise because prophecy cannot be changed about the Beast's regime and since the Beast will own everything including all the armed forces and every military base in the world temporary victory will be his until the True World Leader comes back to HIS earth in which He always owned and he will destroy that wicked and evil servant.
America does fit this beastly category but so does the European Union and the United Nations. Even the new Modern movement of moderate Islam such as United Arab Emirates and the new coming Iraq can fit this category.
On every note one of these possibilities will have to be the Modern day version of the continuing ancient Babel/Greco/Rome cloned system as some predict or interpret today and what the Prophets have shown in their writings. I believe it is not that complicated as some eschatologist's make their interpretations out to be. Once again Eschatologist's agree modern societies will experience a man like Caesar/Nimrod who thinks He is a god or god for that matter and the People will actually worship and revere him like he is one. We seen this experience through the 2000 years of these last days that men arose to lead many astray and in this modern day history will repeat itself again for the upteenth time, correct? Someone even possessed by satan himself has to come out one more time to finally perfect the perfect lie because of past failures but this time he will finally have his moment in his short time. How else are you going to get Apostate Christians, Blinded Jews, and Islam once again to ever follow such a Human who says He is ALLAH or god for that matter with a second Beast who may call Himself the Prophet ISA or Jesus to deceive even the elect if it were possible? You have to perfect and provide the same vomit all men through history returned too right? He will easily decieve the "condemned already"(See John 3:18) ones anyway because he owns them, But to convince the ULTA-religious of the three dominating faiths and all the rest of the small and large cults he better be the most perfect Religious figure the world has ever seen. He will quote Scripture like an expert, and will perfectly practice what he preaches to the "T". That is why Christian KNOW YOUR BIBLE because he will deceive the elect and Jesus said it could be possible. My fellow American's, he will own America too eventually which it seems he already does because of the ABORTION sacrifices being allowed and all the pseudo Christian giving away religious and spiritual leadership to him and his system daily now and calling him god this moment not realizing this because they are ignoring the Scriptures and are being deceived by Man centered doctrines. Democracy is one of these man centered doctrines that detracted the Bibles explanation of a free government in the True GOD as it's KING. Daniel's Statue explains this very carefully. The whole Image Daniel interprets for Nebuchedrezzar is the whole luciferic seeded satanic Babylonian kingdom through out time and to the end of days when Jesus, the Rock made without hands, strikes the image and it breaks into basically dust and is blown away by HIS breath. I suggest you read the Book of Daniel in Chapter 2 like a fine toothed comb to get the picture more clearly. Remember to ask the Holy Spirit.
Here is a little hint. The name "lucifer" means "light-bearer, day star" as the Bible says, but the Bible also names "lucifer" also meaning "King of Babylon" and that is not describing the human kings Nimrod, Nebuchedrezzar, Darius, Alexander the great or any other human king and Caesar (see Matt 4:8 and Rev 2:13). And Funny thing that the Apostle Peter referred to Rome as Babylon some Eschatologist's have written. And What about ISLAM? Some Eschatologist's Say as well that Democracy converted ISLAM is going to be the New Babylon but it will be mixed with Roman ideology of the west so the world could be as a ONE world System free of prejudice etc. There must be a connection in all these.

J. Manty author of (The Prophecy Code, a new Revelation [also see my links to go to his site ),
if I quote him right shows the words in Hebrew in the book of Daniel (Dan 2:41-43) "mixed and mingled" is translated as "arab" which truly should be considered to what is going on right now today in the world in it's birth pangs in the Middle East? ( See also the worldly documentary, God's Warriors etc. advertised by CNN this month www.cnn.com/godswarriorsopk, or check your local TV listings).

However satan is enthroned now and has been since Man fell. I wonder where the location of his throne is now? Was it the same throne as in Pergamos in Rev? Is it in America and will American democracy (some call democracy pseudo fascism) be spread all over the world like a Modern day Born again Babylon or will we fall like Rome in the 5th century or both?
Some believe America will be annihilated by Nuclear bombs such as New York, Washington DC, San Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles etc. Others believe America will be under complete martial Law like Hitler's dreams eventually except more or less fanatical but extreme. There are goals by certain Government officials to unite America with Canada, Mexico and central America as the "North American Federation" set up like a Roman system as the European Union(SEE http://spp.gov/ and http://nesara.insights2.org/index.html these will weird you out, Christian). Some believe Christian's will be raptured and the chaos of this worldwide event will set up the New one world system immediately , which is the most newest theory in the study of Eschatology and one of the most Church dividing teaching in Church history. Also one of the best selling and popular teaching for OSAS Christian authors, fiction and non-fiction alike (see 1 Tim 6:10). (Please do not harden your heart, be Berean and study these FACTS at this LINK http://www.historicist.com/related_subjects/rapturestudies.htm) .
In Fact it is the same or similar to the teachings or the imaginations as the UFO nuts, Sci.FI. nuts, some New Age guru's and old Gnostic paganism that watered down the Scriptures and the Apostles teachings. (Please read the sermons of a faithful sold out True Christian Martyr's Apologetics on this subject at this LINK:http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.i.html)

The one thing I know for sure that we really only can have presuppositions of what is to come. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He also identified HIMself to the Apostle John as "who was and is and is to come" the Alpha and the Omega. So we have a fact right in front of us already and have since the foundation of the world. There is a reality in the future unfolding as we know and when we look back at the past we see pretty much prophecy having being fulfilled, when we look in the present, prophecy fulfilled. What is future is unraveling right now, Wars, rumors of wars, pestilences, earthquakes, Tsunami's, floods, hurricanes, days of Noah and Lot, history repeating itself in governments and governments falling etc.
But the greatest of all history in the present and future, Jesus is going to come and that should be our main focus whether America or your nation is going to crumble, you being a citizen of His Kingdom now and is coming should be the most warmest and settled security your heart can rely on because HIS Kingdom will never ever fall or fail and that is a FACT you can rely on 100%. Seek HIM first always. First.

2 Corinthians 2:14-15
But thanks be to God, Who in Christ always leads us in triumph [as trophies of Christ's victory] and through us spreads and makes evident the fragrance of the knowledge of God everywhere,
For we are the sweet fragrance of Christ [which exhales] unto God, [discernible alike] among those who are being saved and among those who are perish

R. White (C) AUG 2007



Are we Rome? That is, are we Americans, citizens of the mightiest empire the world has known since the days of the Caesars, living in the last days of our civilization? Is the United States, like the Western Roman Empire in the fifth century, doomed to collapse from its own decadence? Or can we avoid Rome's fate?
As historian Arnold J. Toynbee famously observed, "Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder." . . . .
In his fascinating new book "Are We Rome?" journalist Cullen Murphy argues that yes, contemporary America is unnervingly like the Late Roman Empire. But it also has saving graces and resources that the doomed Romans lacked.
In Murphy's view, America parallels Rome in its late imperial phase in six broad ways:

· The overweening importance of the capital city.

· A military unsuited for imperial responsibilities.

· A tendency toward private exploitation of public goods.

· A self-centeredness that deforms attitudes toward and perceptions of the rest of the world.

· Porous borders.

· A complexity that risks becoming unmanageable.

Several [of these] are central to American politics of the moment, none more than military overstretch. Rome couldn't sustain the army it needed to maintain imperial commitments . . . .
The same brash self-confidence that allowed Rome and America to stand boldly astride the world blinded the imperial powers to reality. The arrogant Romans couldn't conceive that others didn't see things as they did. They thought themselves an exceptional people divinely appointed to rule and civilize humanity, which naturally wanted to be Roman.

So it goes today with American liberal democracy . . . .

And there's the matter of migration across borders of the imperium. Rome had always assimilated barbarian tribes, but toward the end lost the ability to control the rate of migration, as well as the facility for effectively Romanizing the immigrants. The comparison with the United States' relationship to Mexico is obvious . . . .
. . . The Roman masses came to depend too heavily on the government, and the governing elites ruled as if the common good coincided with their private interests . . . .
Under late Rome's decadent "bread and circuses" regime, the common man satisfied himself with material pleasures, ignoring the betterment of himself and society . . . .
. . . [Sooner] or later, the choice is going to be upon us. As Gibbon saw, it is a law of history and human nature that prosperity ripens the principle of decay. To live as if our present peace and prosperity will last forever would be a most foolish mistake. (Source: jewishworldreview.com )

2. Learn from the fall of Rome, US warned

The US government is on a ‘burning platform’ of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, chronic healthcare underfunding, immigration and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon, the country’s top government inspector has warned. David Walker, comptroller general of the US, issued the unusually downbeat assessment of his country’s future in a report that lays out what he called “chilling long-term simulations”. These include “dramatic” tax rises, slashed government services and the large-scale dumping by foreign governments of holdings of US debt. Drawing parallels with the end of the Roman empire, Mr Walker warned there were “striking similarities” between America’s current situation and the factors that brought down Rome, including “declining moral values and political civility at home, an over-confident and over-extended military in foreign lands and fiscal irresponsibility by the central government”.

3. 3rd SPP summit shrouded in secrecy

President Bush will interrupt his summer vacation in Crawford, Texas, next week to attend the third summit meeting of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, slated for Aug. 20 and 21 in Montebello, Quebec, at the five-star Fairmont Le Chateau Montebello resort. Bush will meet with Mexico's President Felipe Calderon and Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper at the event. The meeting has been hidden in a cloud of secrecy until WND obtained from an Access to Information Act request a previously unreleased copy of a government report detailing agenda plans for the third SPP summit. According to WND reports, as many as 10,000 protesters are expected to be in Quebec to oppose the meeting. WND has reported that a multinational business agenda is driving this upcoming SPP summit according to the heavily redacted document obtained from the Canadian government. The memo clearly states at center stage in the Montebello SPP summit will be recommendations by the North American Competitiveness Council, regarding promoting North American competitiveness for multinational corporations through "integrating" and "harmonizing" regulations between Mexico, Canada and the U.S.